tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post1864576290972056042..comments2012-07-16T17:49:18.312-07:00Comments on Bold Runner: Recovery, Rest and (Staying Positive?)Rob Frenchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11757386192673580949noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-908312999644120492010-12-09T07:11:12.467-08:002010-12-09T07:11:12.467-08:00after time to reflect, i do think i held back too ...after time to reflect, i do think i held back too much. it was just hard for me to gasp running "fast/hard" during the portions that you can do that. masochist lessons! and thanks Beth for the reminder that i'm in this to enjoy... <br /><br />Best of luck to you at Hellgate. Maybe this super cold weather will have passed by 12:01 a.m. on Saturday.Rob Frenchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11757386192673580949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-19172509180258416942010-12-08T09:22:26.828-08:002010-12-08T09:22:26.828-08:00I think you were just holding back because you wer...I think you were just holding back because you were unsure of what covering that distance would be like and it does seem to take more out of you than you realize. I did a 9 mile run the saturday after masochist then rick and I did a 25 mile run the next weekend which was fine. I was still a bit tired and muscles were tight then we went to the gobbler and it did not go as well as I had hoped at all so I haven't done anything since then hoping less is more. its hard to figure these things out and like jenny said it just takes a while to figure it all out. heck even when we think we have it figured out we don't know what to do :) some days you feel awesome and everything comes together and then others its just a struggle to cross the finish line. the bad days really make you appreciate the good ones. frosty 50 is a fast one, if you are feeling good that day you will be pleased with your time. it is my fastest 50k by far, but look at the course compaired to most that we run and you can see why. don't worry about the fast times, they will come naturally. just get out there and run and enjoy!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13663151468825683348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-75772130944250302792010-12-08T07:48:45.810-08:002010-12-08T07:48:45.810-08:00Thanks for your comments Rick. It's hard for ...Thanks for your comments Rick. It's hard for me to believe I was away from running for 2+ decades. BUT I had an injury that I just couldn't solve and after years of doctors and frustrations I walked away from it. Ended up playing in a blues band in Baton Rouge for a bit and replaced my passion for running to music. SO glad I walked out my door on 12/1/07 and decided I was going to run again. You know the story.... running a little more every day, hmmm I'll do a loop at Salem Lake, hmmm maybe I can run a marathon again, hmmm maybe qualify for Boston, hmmmm run an ultra, hmmm now on to a 100 mi adventure. Keep me posted on races and training runs. I'll make the drive to run with friends in beautiful places.Rob Frenchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11757386192673580949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-45675751688073272762010-12-08T07:19:52.606-08:002010-12-08T07:19:52.606-08:00We have many similarities in our running life. We...We have many similarities in our running life. We are about the same age and I started running in 1972, but for the most part, I have been running that whole time. My competitive days are over other than running hard for myself and paying attention to those people I normally run around. I have been at this ultra/trail thing for nearly nine years and have no desire to go back to my road days where everything is based upon a finishing time. My goals have changed into enjoying my running, but at the same time running many ultras each year and doing my best in them. You will have ultras that you felt you raced and there will be others where you just were happy to talk with other runners and enjoy the run. That is ok. I have found that there is a big difference between a 50k and a 50 miler. Marathoners can do well in a 50k, but the learning curve of stepping up to the 50 mile is great. If it is your desire to really race a 50 miler, then you will learn what you need to do. Masochist is a tricky course. It is deceiving. It eats you up and spits you out. It destroys your quads so that you can't run down a hill and walking is tough. I wish you well at Salem Lake, but I will miss you at Sasquatch. Salem Lake is a fast course. My 50k PR is there so go take a stab at breaking that four hour mark! It is within your reach.Rick Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00067293157750460416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-12932026256950173532010-12-06T15:26:09.965-08:002010-12-06T15:26:09.965-08:00Thanks Jenn. I knew my ultra friends in VA and TN...Thanks Jenn. I knew my ultra friends in VA and TN would help get me back on track. I spoke on the phone with Rick on his way to the Bent Creek Gobbler and just venting a bit about MMTR got me feeling better. Thanks for your input. I think I have a sub 4 hour 50k in me but might be a stretch by early January. (my PR is 3:58 in 1978! HAH)Rob Frenchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11757386192673580949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058807224191608946.post-20630338240501894882010-12-06T14:50:20.155-08:002010-12-06T14:50:20.155-08:00hey rob,
I just think it take a little while to...hey rob, <br /><br /> I just think it take a little while to figure everything out as far was running in the mountains, your fueling needs for a 50 miler etc. that being said, MMTR is a TOUGH, TOUGH race. It's not that technical ( only a couple sections of single track) but I just think the race as a whole.. all the climbing all the steep downhill sections etc.. it makes for a tough day. not much level ground at all it seems! <br /> There is no doubt in my mind once you figure it out what works best for you, you WILL BE RACING 50's. :o) yay!! <br /><br />You'll be wide open at frosty 50k because it's very much like annette's 50k ( new river 50k) so it's flat and fast! I see a 50k pr in your future! :o)jennifer Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346159448227354910noreply@blogger.com